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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/7/2010 10:17:34 AM   
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I guess I could just check it once, but had I gone by the first reading last weekend, I wouldn't have gone back to the hospital at all. That could have been a big problem.

I had tuna fish for lunch straight with no bread before my blood sugar went low. I didn't do anything unusual, in fact I think that I rested a bit. I had no sugar what so ever other than Sprite in the house, so I made myself go to the store to pick up something sugary. I do not drive at all, so that would not be an issue per say. I am just glad that I did not end up back in the hospital.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/7/2010 10:23:42 AM   
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Just so you know for the future: Sprite (regular) would've worked fine.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/7/2010 10:39:28 AM   
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I had tuna fish for lunch straight with no bread before my blood sugar went low.


And that's why it went low. Your meals need to have carbs unless you're trying to bring down a very high blood sugar. Even then, I would think you would need a small amount of carbs. The carb counts aren't just a maximum; they're also a minimum.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/7/2010 10:45:58 AM   
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I had tuna fish for lunch straight with no bread before my blood sugar went low.


And that's why it went low. Your meals need to have carbs unless you're trying to bring down a very high blood sugar. Even then, I would think you would need a small amount of carbs. The carb counts aren't just a maximum; they're also a minimum.



Yep.


Mike, you have to remember that your body is still making some insulin: it's just not enough to cover all the carbs you might want to eat.

A few whole wheat crackers or one slice of whole grain bread would be a good choice to eat with tuna.

Or make it into tuna salad w/ a little bit of sweet pickle relish -- which has a bit of carbs.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/7/2010 10:54:52 AM   
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I had tuna fish for lunch straight with no bread before my blood sugar went low.


And that's why it went low. Your meals need to have carbs unless you're trying to bring down a very high blood sugar. Even then, I would think you would need a small amount of carbs. The carb counts aren't just a maximum; they're also a minimum.



Yep.


Mike, you have to remember that your body is still making some insulin: it's just not enough to cover all the carbs you might want to eat.

A few whole wheat crackers or one slice of whole grain bread would be a good choice to eat with tuna.

Or make it into tuna salad w/ a little bit of sweet pickle relish -- which has a bit of carbs.


Good to hear about the Sprite. I am still learning about the whole carbs thing. I am taking 2 medications right now and I think that is keeping my blood sugar excessively low. Next time I will make sure that I eat bread with my meal.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/7/2010 12:42:12 PM   
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What's NPR?

I've always been told that if you have a hypo, just to have a sandwich and a drink, either a soda or juice.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/7/2010 1:16:42 PM   
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What's NPR?


National Public Radio -- network that broadcasts in the United States -- lots of news programs


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I've always been told that if you have a hypo, just to have a sandwich and a drink, either a soda or juice.



Depends on how low you go.

If I'm between 80 and 110, I'm likely headed downward, so I eat a snack.

For a low (70 and below), I'll have something sugary. And then have a starch+protein snack -- a small sandwich would work well for that.


Each person's body works a bit differently, so it's best to go with what your team of medical and health experts have recommended for you.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/7/2010 3:19:10 PM   
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I've learned that unless I am really low (60s to 75) I can just eat a snack with carbs (vs. something really sugary) ~ or I will just eat my next meal, early. My preference is to not spike myself by eating straight sugar, opting instead for something more balanced (whole grain crackers, half an apple) ~ but that's just me. Fortunately for me, my wonderful DH always has sugar in the house ... juice boxes, Hershey's kisses, etc.... so if I need something fast-acting, there is always something around.

Mike ... you are taking Metformin ... which prompts your body to make more insulin. If you are taking Metformin (and you should be), you need to balance EVERY meal and EVERY snack with carbs and non-carbs (protein/fats). That means you cannot just eat tuna (protein), you need to eat tuna and some carbs (whole grain bread, whole grain crackers, an apple) .... so that your body is properly fueled and your blood sugars stay balanced.

Did your doctor recommend a number of carbs for you to shoot for in every meal? Many Type 2 diabetics aim for 45-60g of carbs per meal, balanced with protein and fats. If your doctor didn't give you a target, try 45g of carbs per meal, then see how you are doing. And for snacks? 15g carbs plus some protein. (That's about the amount of carbs in a standard light yogurt, for example)

You really do need to take this seriously .... what you are eating, when you are eating, testing your blood sugars on a schedule, and taking your meds on a schedule ~ especially until your diabetes is stabilized AND you have a really good handle on how to control it.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/7/2010 9:48:55 PM   
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I am presently taking 1,000 Milligrams of Metformen twice a day and Glyburide 5 milligrams also. I am still learning about balancing carbs, etc. I am gonna be taking a diabetes learning class starting on Thursday.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/7/2010 9:52:58 PM   
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I am gonna be taking a diabetes learning class starting on Thursday.


Excellent!
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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/7/2010 11:53:50 PM   
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I am presently taking 1,000 Milligrams of Metformen twice a day and Glyburide 5 milligrams also. I am still learning about balancing carbs, etc. I am gonna be taking a diabetes learning class starting on Thursday.


It is a lot to learn, and can be overwhelming at first. Classes are great, but some of it you have to learn yourself by trial and error. We're all differerent.

I feel fine as long as my blood sugar is above 70. In fact, I've been down as low as 49 (reaction to a medication not related to diabetes) and I was still able to walk around and function, though I was in a bit of a daze. I don't start reaching for carbs until I'm below 75. I consider anything above 75 to the good. Now my father starts getting low blood sugar signs if he gets below 110. So, you'll have to learn where low is for you.

When I do have a low I reach for milk or Coke. I love Coke, and consider getting a chance to have a Coke when I am low is a treat. Not that I want to go low, but if I do, I might as well get some pleasure out of it. LOL

As the others said, after I get my sugar level back up with the Coke, I eat some protein to keep it up.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/8/2010 12:45:21 PM   
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Now my father starts getting low blood sugar signs if he gets below 110.



It might be that he's feeling the drop, as it goes below 110 (and keeps going down if he doesn't eat anything)... not that he's feeling any particular level.

That's what has happened to me in the latter 10+ years of having diabetes.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/8/2010 11:37:01 PM   
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Now my father starts getting low blood sugar signs if he gets below 110.



It might be that he's feeling the drop, as it goes below 110 (and keeps going down if he doesn't eat anything)... not that he's feeling any particular level.

That's what has happened to me in the latter 10+ years of having diabetes.


Possibly. Also, I recall reading somewhere that older people often feel better with somewhat higher blood sugar levels

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/9/2010 12:46:54 PM   
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What's NPR?


National Public Radio, an American radio network funded by the federal government.

Mike, I hope the class goes well.
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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/10/2010 7:50:04 AM   
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Thanks, DS.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/10/2010 1:03:38 PM   
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The class did go well and I learned a couple of things that I had misinformation on too. I also found out that while unpleasant, a blood sugar reading of 60 is not an emergency. I am relieved to hear that.

Right now I got some type of metallic taste in my mouth. I do not know why at all.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/11/2010 7:30:26 PM   
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60 is not an emergency, but if you're feeling dizzy or disoriented you need to eat something soon or take a glucose tablet.
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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/12/2010 6:08:44 PM   
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The class did go well and I learned a couple of things that I had misinformation on too. I also found out that while unpleasant, a blood sugar reading of 60 is not an emergency. I am relieved to hear that.

Right now I got some type of metallic taste in my mouth. I do not know why at all.


I'm curious, did the teacher say at what point a low blood sugar reading becomes an emergency?

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/12/2010 9:46:01 PM   
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My endocrinologist told me to take fast-acting glucose tablets at 70.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/13/2010 11:21:29 AM   
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The class did go well and I learned a couple of things that I had misinformation on too. I also found out that while unpleasant, a blood sugar reading of 60 is not an emergency. I am relieved to hear that.

Right now I got some type of metallic taste in my mouth. I do not know why at all.


I'm curious, did the teacher say at what point a low blood sugar reading becomes an emergency?



I'm not answering for Mike, of course. But I wouldn't think it would be an emergency (in the sense of needing to go to the ER) unless one went unconscious.

I've had lots of low BSLs in my 24 years of diabetes and not once did I pass out or have to go to the ER for a low. (Probably is a huge thing of grace from God!!) I've woken up sweating, my bed and my clothes drenched, and had to get something sugary w/out even checking the BSL (I was doing well to grab a box of juice!) --- the symptoms in that case are pretty obvious!

I do have a friend in her late 60s who is a T1 and who has had some blackouts with low BSLs, even while she was driving... and has driven off the road or has had fender-benders. (She is no longer sensitive to BSL lows.)

But as long as you can feel the symptoms and know to check your BSL and then to administer fast-acting glucose, you shouldn't need to have emergency services.



(The only time I went to the ER was with really high BSLs I couldn't get to come down, and I was throwing up, couldn't keep water down, and was getting dehydrated. I was hospitalized overnight for what was probably DKA ---- I think I've told this story upthread, actually.)

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/13/2010 11:26:30 AM   
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There was an event that happened locally a few years ago that a school bus driver blacked out with low BSL with a busload of young kids. The bus was traveling slowly along the edge of the road. If I remember correctly, a police cruiser got in front of the bus and got it to stop.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/13/2010 11:38:04 AM   
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Wow, that's scary. Just as well some kids carry a mobile/cell phone these days.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/13/2010 5:05:00 PM   
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The class did go well and I learned a couple of things that I had misinformation on too. I also found out that while unpleasant, a blood sugar reading of 60 is not an emergency. I am relieved to hear that.

Right now I got some type of metallic taste in my mouth. I do not know why at all.


I'm curious, did the teacher say at what point a low blood sugar reading becomes an emergency?



I'm not answering for Mike, of course. But I wouldn't think it would be an emergency (in the sense of needing to go to the ER) unless one went unconscious.

I've had lots of low BSLs in my 24 years of diabetes and not once did I pass out or have to go to the ER for a low. (Probably is a huge thing of grace from God!!) I've woken up sweating, my bed and my clothes drenched, and had to get something sugary w/out even checking the BSL (I was doing well to grab a box of juice!) --- the symptoms in that case are pretty obvious!

I do have a friend in her late 60s who is a T1 and who has had some blackouts with low BSLs, even while she was driving... and has driven off the road or has had fender-benders. (She is no longer sensitive to BSL lows.)

But as long as you can feel the symptoms and know to check your BSL and then to administer fast-acting glucose, you shouldn't need to have emergency services.



(The only time I went to the ER was with really high BSLs I couldn't get to come down, and I was throwing up, couldn't keep water down, and was getting dehydrated. I was hospitalized overnight for what was probably DKA ---- I think I've told this story upthread, actually.)



It's interesting that you mention waking up in the middle of the night with low blood sugar. This has never happened to me, but it does to my father. We've often wondered if there is some biological self preservation response that makes a person wake up when this happens, or if it's possible for a person to get into real trouble because of a low blood sugar event while they are unaware because they are asleep.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/13/2010 6:45:30 PM   
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The class did go well and I learned a couple of things that I had misinformation on too. I also found out that while unpleasant, a blood sugar reading of 60 is not an emergency. I am relieved to hear that.

Right now I got some type of metallic taste in my mouth. I do not know why at all.


I'm curious, did the teacher say at what point a low blood sugar reading becomes an emergency?


When it goes down to about 30.

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RE: Living with Diabetes... - 9/13/2010 9:57:44 PM   
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If your BSL hits 30, you're probably near-death. Below 50 is consider a red-letter do something IMMEDIATELY mark for people with diagnosed hypoglycemia to avoid coma/death.

Frankly, I wouldn't follow that advice from the teacher.... it's not worth risking your life over.

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